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Accession number 1997.057
Catalog Number 1997.057.001
Object Name Audiocassette
Date 1997
Title McIntyre, Maggie Cawthon Oral History
Scope & Content Two original audio tapes of the Maggie McIntyre Oral History.

TRANSCRIPTION OF MAGGIE LEE CAWTHON MCINTYRE ORAL HISTORY TAPES
RECORDED MAY 7, 1997 AT HER HOME IN DOYLINE, LA.
BY DAVID JEANE AND SHANNA FAULK


Notes: M = Mrs. Maggie McIntyre D= David Jeane S= Shanna Faulk
See following page for Cawthon Genealogy.


I'm one of the oldest citizens of Doyline, and they think I know a lot of history, and really I never was. ... Oh, I liked history, but not going back to our family. But, now my brother in Shreveport has a good picture [of the house]. My nephew, he's an artist, he does sketching, I have some of his works and some of my mother's works.
D- What's his name?
J D Cawthon. I wanted to give you that. [Picture of the house at Koran] I have a picture of our house. He has a larger picture of the house [Cawthon-Bruner house in Koran] so I know, and my sister-in-law, my older brother died several years ago, .....
S-Ardis?
That was Ardis. His name was John Ardis, but his wife calls him John because she started knowing him during World War II. Of course he went by John. She said that she thought Jimmy had drawn a picture of Koran. We called it "Korn" when we lived there, but I'll try to say Koran. We talked about it one time but I had forgotten it. But he drew, I don't know who helped him with it, but he [Koran]. I'll call and ask him, but I'm sure he'd love to talk to you all.
He IS the youngest. He IS the baby. I just know that he'd love to do it. I know he can't remember back as far as my sister and I can,. But, here's ten pages of it. [ The written document]
D & S- Wonderful!
I went down and tried to cover everything you all asked. I could answer almost everything.
D- That's just wonderful!
S- You have beautiful handwriting.
M- Mercy, I have arthritis in my hand and its very hard for me to write now. ,
S- This is wonderful.
[Talking about the diagram of the house]
I'll show you what I drew. This is how it was first. This is all there was to it. A porch, and the bedroom, and dining room, and kitchen, and a back porch, and the well was on the end of it. Daddy added a bedroom and [another] bedroom. After the Bruners moved they added-changed it up. But they (her family) only had one bedroom and there was a bed in the dining room. I have a lot of the furniture.
Oh really?
I'll show you the furniture. That's one of the dressers Mama and Daddy bought right after they married in 1905 or shortly after, I don't know just when.
D- That's neat.
Well I have the entire dining room set here.
S- Wonderful.
D- 1905!
S- Do you know when the oldest part of the house was built?
M- Ti-Tee [ Annis Cawthon, her sister, nicknamed Tih-Tee] and I decided that it had to have been built..... Mama and Daddy married in January 1905 they lived at McDade on the River. But they lived in McDade a year. Uncle Jones Tooke and Aunt Lizzie owned a lot of property and still do. Well, Ida does.; the family still owns it.
But.....We don't know exactly the date he bought the property, but we assume it was in 1906 and they had to have built the house shortly afterwards because my oldest brother was born there in March of 1907. So it had to have been built in 1906. But now I know when Daddy bought the property it was recorded in the Bossier record. Apparently it was 1906. The two bedrooms must have been added in 1916-1917. Because I know in July of 1915 it had not been built.
[ Maggie's reaction to her little brother's birth. Index 109]
Because that's when our baby brother was born. We had visited Aunt Lizzie. Ida had taken us over there, and Aunt Lizzie came to help the doctor [Dr. Stewart] with Mama. Now I remember this and I wasn't quite four. But I remember coming in, and I looked at that little, ugly red thing on the bed with Mama and I got under her bed and PITCHED A FIT! I kicked and kicked. I just remembered it. And my Daddy thought it would help and he took some stove-wood and made me a little bed. And I remember that stove-wood bed. So from that you can almost know that it was 1916 or 17. Because our family had got [larger], there were four of us and we needed more room.
[The furniture: Index 125]
Would you first like to see the furniture? Then kind of get an idea.....I thought if you'd like to see it I have the dining room set. They bought a whole set. [They bought] a big, pretty wooden bed but we had to store it and the termites got in it. We have the washstand. That's all in there [the written document].
S- The Bruners thought that the house was built much earlier than that. Jewel [Bruner-Parkerson] and the Bruner family thought that the house was built much earlier. than that.
M-No.
S-They thought it might have been built in the 1890s.
M-Oh, no, no, no. I'm sure Uncle Jones' house was. Uncle Jones lived across the street. Aunt Lizzie was my father's mother's sister. And I'll tell you about the history of that. He was an orphan. His father was an architect and went to California and they never did learn how he died or when he died. His mother died so his grandparents took him. They had moved to Texas. After his grandfather died his grandmother moved in the house with Uncle Jones and Aunt Lizzie. That was Daddy's Aunt. His mother and Aunt Lizzie were sisters. That's where the Tooke family came in except Ti-Tee and I thought that some where
along the way the Tookes are distantly related- but we don't know how unless Jimmy has it. I really just don't .....you can get that information from my other brother.
S- Did they live directly across the street?
Our house was back from the road a little piece and Aunt Lizzie and Uncle Jones (I have their house in here, too). It was a large family. That was my Daddy's family and Aunt Lizzie felt more like a grandmother to me. But its amazing how I can remember so many things, so many things came back especially when Ti-Tee, that's my sister, when Ti-Tee and I started talking about it. I think we were both amazed. I was just 8 when we moved up here. You know I wasn't very large, I was very tiny. I still have some memory, thank goodness. But if you asked me your name right now I couldn't tell you!
D- Sometimes I can't remember my name.
M-Would you like to read that {the written history] and then ask me questions?
D- Well, lets look at the furniture first.
M- All right. Then I'll let you see the pictures.
D- O.K.

[Dining Room Furniture Index 177]
Bought shortly after the marriage. That's the sideboard, and this is the table and six chairs and that was it. They got my brother a high chair , and his daughter has that. All four of us used the high chair. Plus my daughter. The high chair's really been handed down. [The china cabinet] That's my sister-in-law's. They moved and she gave that to me. We had another small one. [Table] There's a man here in Doyline who said he just wished he could take it and that it would have been beautiful when it was new.
D- No! It looks fine. It wouldn't be the same thing if you refinished it.
M- I guess I would really like to see how it originally looked, because this hasn't been painted. But I'm real proud. This has been handed down. [Picture of flowers] Now this is a picture-Ida was an artist, too, Ida Tooke. This was made when she was rather old. She's still living, she's almost 100. She's in a nursing home in Bossier City. Now that was some of the first work my brother did. (Still life of fruit) But I thought that if yall needed it, that picture,
Do you have a museum?
D- We're building one. They'll start construction next month.
M-This piano was bought about 1915. Now this is the kind of work my nephew does. He is architectural historian for the state of Mississippi.
D-Oh.
M- And this is what our church gave me when I retired for my 40th year as [teacher] for age 0 to 3rd grade Sunday School. And the reason they bought the piano is because Ida gave my brother [music lessons].
[My mother] took some art lessons when she was about 20 years old. That is not my favorite. My sister has my favorite. [Photo] That was my mother-in-law.
D-She's very pretty.
M- Isn't she pretty? [Gesturing toward a closed door?] I don't have anything in this room. I have an antique dresser that was in the McIntyre house.
S- Whatever you want to do.
M- I have pictures and pictures and pictures. That was my granddaughter when she graduated from high school. I said that my work of art was my daughter and my granddaughter.
D- There you go.
[238]
That's my favorite right there: Marilyn, Earl and Beth. Ti-tee said: 'Pinkie, I knew you had a lot of pictures, but I didn't know you had your house full.' And I had a picture of my daughter when she was 7 years old and Mr. Waller in Springhill, the photographer, said he made that picture. He came down here.... no, my sister took her up there. She was teaching up there. ... took her up there and he made some pictures. She was in my brother's wedding- flower girl. And when he got those back, Ti-tee said, 'Pinkie, I want you to come up here, there's something I want to show you.' He had painted a picture of Marilyn. About like this [shows size] and he said it was the first perfect picture he had ever made of a child. I have one in black and white, but he has her golden hair and pretty, soft blue eyes, peaches and cream complexion, and her hair was curly. And its beautiful. I'm so proud of it, but I was in Ruston for 4 months, I had surgery and I hated to leave it over here in the house. And I never have brought it back. As I say, that's my work of art.
D- Yes.
M- There's my poem I wrote. I do have that.
[258]
D- Where does your daughter live?
M- In Ruston. That's where my sister lives and where my sister in law lives. They're all....
D-They're all Ruston people.
M- My brother was teaching at Tech. He taught in the graduate school - something about education- and his wife, she had one of the executive jobs. She was head of the place where the...... when students interview for jobs....
D- Placement Office?
M- Yes, the placement office. And then later she was Vice-President of something. Then my sister was teaching at Springhill and she was offered a job teaching Math at Tech.
D- What's your sister's name?
M- Annis Cawthon. She's never married. All that's......
D- When did she leave Springhill?
M- 1958 or 59.
D- I moved there in 1972.
M Oh, you did? She was there 17 years. She lived with Kelly and Emmaline McWilliams.
D-When I first moved to Springhill I rented Ms. Mac[Williams]"s mother-in-law's house next door to her.
M- You did?
D- She is just the sweetest lady.
M- She is, without a doubt. We just love her like....Ti-tee and Emmaline still....They don't get to see each other very often, but they're very, very dear friends. Of course our children all grew up together.
D- I'll have to go by and tell her I've met you then.
M- Well do, and she calls me "Pinkie".
D- Yes, We lived next door to Mrs. Mac for 7, oh 6, years.
M- I just love Kelly! Kelly was so funny. Did you ever know Kelly? Of course I knew all the children. Jan and Marilyn are about the same age and she'd come up here and Marilyn'd go down there and stay. My sister really [raised?] her [Marilyn] I'd say.

[289] Marilyn - she knows that I had her. But my sister really took care of her. [When she was teaching she was free in the summers?] I worked at the welfare office for 37 years. She was here with her. And mama felt like she was hers. I never did feel like I was too much of a mother because I worked the whole time, came in late and we were together on weekends. But my sister-and she absolutely ADORED my sister, and I'm so glad.
D-Yes, that worked out really good.
M- It did. And I knew that Marilyn was safe here with Mama and Daddy. And they just adored her. She was their only grandchild for a long time. She's spoiled, rotten. But my husband died in February of 1948 and Marilyn was just 14 months old. Her birthday's in December. I guess its 13 or 14 months old when he died. She was an only child. We were very thankful to have her, though. He was overseas for 33 months- I put that in the record, though. He was a victim, he died from a cancer that developed from an ulcer. I've been fortunate in so many ways. We just missed time together. We were so happy. It was the first time we'd really had much.....lived. When he got back. He was overseas for 33 months. You know, we don't know why those things happen. We just have to accept it.
S- You seem to be in very good health.
M- Well! I'll put it this way. For 85, I'll soon be 86, I think I have done remarkably well considering everything. But I've had some problems. The worst thing I had was shingles. I had it two years ago.
My lip is still....and then I had a recurrence this year. But it was horrible. And it was all over this side of my face. My doctor made my picture.....[

[337]

Now here's the pictures. This is the house. This is the kitchen, next to it was the dining room, and this is the bedroom. And that was it. Front porch and back porch. And then there were two rooms added, this room and another room, and a fireplace in between those. Then we had three bedrooms. This was called the front room. Preachers always stayed with us so they [had that room].
One of the questions asked about what was in the yard. I don't ever remember seeing any grass. Mama had pretty flowers. She had rose bushes and Mama brought a cutting up here and that bush is still here.
And that came from Koran.
D- Did it?
S- I was out at Koran on Sunday and there's rose bushes everywhere. They're running wild.
M- This [picture] was made in our front yard, and this was made in our front yard. This was made with our cousin. This, poor thing, is me, with my red hair and freckles. And this is, well her mother taught me in the third grade. We were [played] nurses during WWI. And this was snow down there and this is me and this
is Jimmy and this is my sister , I'm there by Mama. This is all-day meeting and dinner-on-the grounds at the Baptist church. This is us. This is my sister. This is me. And this is my brother. This is my mother and father, his mother and father, and his grandmother and grandfather.
D- Oh
S- Wonderful
These were made up here in Doyline.
No this was me, I suppose in Koran. Now this was all four of us. This was the baby, Jimmy, this was me, this was Ti-Tee, and Bo-Bo. This was my mother and my father. Who's the little..... Isn't she pretty.
Ida gave me this. That's my daddy when he was a baby.
S- W
Mama had the prettiest brown eyes, my sister's the only one who got her pretty brown eyes, . The rest of us had blue eyes. And she had real white skin. Everyone said she was just beautiful.
Now this, I wanted to be sure and show you. This is Jimmy, the baby, and this is Jack [the dog], and Daddy ordered this Model T car from Sears. They sent it in parts and he built the car. I can remember I had to sit back of [behind] Daddy because the Baby sat up front with Mama and since I was the one they could push around, we three sat on the back seat, They pushed me back of Daddy and he chewed tobacco and I caught most of it. And I'd say, 'This is a GOOD car!' I thought that was something!
When did he get the Model T?
I'd say in 1916 or 17. That's me and that's my first car. That was aChevrolet. It never did run well. I wanted to show you my grandfather's . Now this is Uncle Jones' house. Two stories
S-We have a picture of it at the History Center. I don't think it has this (writing) on it. That Mr. J.D. Cawthon took. I think he wrote an article on it somewhere.
My Daddy's father was an architect and this is the only one [drawing of Queen Anne style house] that we have of his work. He went to California and that's where [he died]. But isn't that something?
D-He was very good.
S- Yes, for that time period. Look at that.
M- Now Eleanor, my sister in law, has many pictures of Koran. But he made the pictures.
[406][Looking at the picture from Koran school] This is me! and this is my sister and this is
Lar--- Sapp, I think, and this is Jimmy. {Mrs. McIntyre continues to talk about people in the photo.}

END OF TAPE 1, SIDE A

SIDE B

[photo]
I told you about the Dr., Dr. Stewart. He delivered all four of us. They lived near the school house. He had an office and the office was next door to his house.
S-Where was the school-house?
M- Well, it's changed so much. It's not there any more, of course. But you go down the Highway there's a little road that turns to the left. The schoolhouse was just two rooms. I wish I had a picture of that.
I went to 1st and 2nd and 3rd [grades] and then we moved up here. I saw just week bef. last the daughter of my 2nd grade teacher and she lived. Now one of my teachers was Miss Martelia Lee she was my first grade teacher, she lived at Beton. I'm not sure. She sent me something, a handkerchief or something. But then the girl I was with when we were nurses,, Elizabeth's mother taught me in the 3rd grade. I don't remember much about school. My brother and sister were ideal pupils. They studied hard and they worked hard and made good grades and obeyed Mama and Daddy and were just GOOD children. I came along and I'd rather play than study. I have to admit it. I did pass, but I wasn't nearly as serious as they were. Later on I said 'I'm going to learn to dance,' and I learned to dance. We were forbidden to dance or have gambling cards. In fact, my sister and I couldn't date until we graduated from High School. Yet I had a boyfriend but they didn't know about it. [laughing] I'm telling about my dirty past.
But I was just different from them.

[Photo of the Tooke home. Index 85]
This was her dining room, this was Aunt Lizzie's and Uncle Jones' room, and there's a hall and on this end there's a living room, a parlor. So on the left is the parlor and on the far right is the kitchen?
No, this is the dining room and the kitchen.
So the dining room and the kitchen's on the right?
And this is..?
Aunt Lizzie's room.
And back of Aunt Lizzie's room was Ida's room, I believe. There was a big hall that went all the way to the back where there were stairs and there were.. .. Oh, there was a big family of them. About 6 or 7 boys and 2 girls: Ida and Cousin Elenora. I don't remember going up stairs much. But Ida was our play mate.
She was quite a bit older than us. [100] I guess she's nearly 100. She's there at the Bossier Nursing Home, back of the Hospital.
S- I don't know, we'd have to look it up and see.
M- But she wouldn't be able to help you any. She doesn't know.....I haven't been able to go over there to see her and I hate it, because she was so good to us as children and she taught my brother piano.
S- Oh, she was a music teacher?
M- She played really well. She went to what's now Northwestern [ then the Normal College] and took music, and oh, she could play real well.
And another thing. I didn't put this in there. I just thought about it. We thought the Huns were coming to get us...during World War I. I guess they called the Germans "Huns." We had to be very, very careful of what we said or what we did 'cause the Huns might come. But Cousin Nick brought his gas mask home with him and they kept that in the parlor. It was an awful looking thing- had a long.....(makes a motion with her hand) Did ya'll ever see one?
S- They're scary looking.
D- Yes. Scary looking thing. Real scary looking.
M- You don't have a picture of our house, then?
S- No ma'am, we don't have a picture of your house. There a re a couple more that I want to show you, though... These may be people that you knew. This was a picnic at Koran...
M - This was my brother's writing!
S- Oh, is it?
M- [Reading] At Gregg's Landing, Koran. Oh, he's got the names [on the back]. Oh, he's very methodical. She [his widow] doesn't know everything she's got of his. He wrote one book. He saved everything. My sister and I weren't very good at keeping things. I've got all those books back there of pictures.... but of course its been years and I didn't do anything about genaeology.
S- And, is he still alive?
M- No, he died in 1984. We're all in our 80s.
But this is Billy Stewart is the one with the guitar. That's Dr. Stewart's younger son. Now I would not know. That is very interesting. Could I have a copy of this.
[Seeing the date on the picture] Mercy, 1902! I wasn't even a dream then!
[163]
There were two stores, one was the older Sapp and the younger Sapp. Uncle Lex Tooke bought one of the stores.
S- What was his name again?
M- Cousin Lex. We called him Lex. L-E-X I guess, I don't know. I don't know what his name was.
S- That's a perfectly good name, I just couldn't understand it.
M- I'm sure he had a name.
I'm really not sure.
Oh, the Yearwoods are somehow connected with some of my cousins, some of her relatives, not some of ours. And the Sibleys were good friends of the family. And Adelaide Tooke was one, but she was Annis Mae Tooke Doyle. [Her?] father was married four times and she was one of the ½ sisters. We called her "Tookie". Now the Stewarts I remember better than any of them.
You know it really odd how you remember certain things. I can just see Carrie, when she was Carrie Plant, Thompson Carter.... You know Harold Montgomery's place. It should be in the historical society. They were not the first settlers, but the Plants. The Plants'-Grandmother Plants home and the Cawthons and the Plants would meet at Grandmother Plant's and have Sunday Dinner. They came to Koran Church.
But that's a beautiful place, you don't know anything about it.
S-I've heard about it. Some one else suggested it. I don't know how old the house is.
M- Harold is dead and his wife is, too. But they have a son but they live across in a new home over there. I hope they still keep it up. Its been written up. I have pictures of it somewhere. It's considered one of the outstanding places. Well, its is Webster Parish.
S- Oh.

M- Well, you all wouldn't have it.
But what I started to say. We'd go to church on Sunday night - go in the morning and go back at night. And one of the Plants, Carrie Plant, played the old pump organ and I can just see her getting right with the music. And the only song I remember is "When the Roll is Called up Yonder I'll be There." Now why I would remember that. A lot of the children their mothers put them on a pallet, but don't you know we couldn't! I could put my head in Mama's lap but we were not allowed to get on the pallet. As I said, we were brought up very strict.
S- Did they separate the men and the women in that church?
M- No, no they sat together. I remember a little bit about that church but not very much. [221] But I did go and put my head on Mama's lap. But I do remember the organ. And it was just a straight church- just across the front and a straight back. I don't know if Jimmy drew one [picture] of that church or not. They tore that church down. My daddy was a carpenter during the winter months and he built the first Baptist Church that they had here (Doyline) and he used some of the lumber from that Koran Church.
It's real odd. We were brought up. We went to Sunday School, Church, BYPU, (Baptist Young People's Union) Church, Choir meetings, prayer meeting. When the Church doors were open, we were there, and not a one of us are Baptist now. Isn't that odd?
D- That's funny.
But my older brother Ardis- I call him Bobo but that sounds kind of stupid, Ardis was real active. But he married, and I think he's still ------. I'm a little bit Baptist still. But his wife wouldn't compromise. Mama grew up as a Presbyterian, but she (Ardis' wife) would not. She was a Lutheran. So he joined the Lutheran Church. Then my sister was really never a Baptist and when she got away from home she joined the Methodist Church. And then I came along and after I married, John was a Methodist and we wanted our family..... I had gone over here to the Church and I liked it and I joined the Methodist Church to be with John and then our younger brother married a Presbyterian and he's Presbyterian. Anyway, we were church-going folks.
[252] I'm real proud of my background. We were brought up really [well]. Our preacher and I were talking and I said , 'You know, I really can't remember a time when I didn't love Jesus. You know, I'd gone to Sunday School and Church all my life. And [that] was all I knew. I won't go into tell you.....
[Telephone rings. It is a call from her sister-in-law, who is calling to tell her how the Cawthons are related to the Tooke family. Index 259]
Uncle Jones' Mother and Daddy were Hardy Nixon Vickers - my Daddy's Grandfather- Uncle Jones' Grandfather Hardy Nixon Vickers and his wife was Sarah Lester Vickers. Sarah Lester Vickers and Hardy Nixon Vickers had these children: James Jackson Vickers, Eliza, John L., Sarah, Anna Nixon [Vickers] - she married John Arthur Tooke. Anna Nixon Vickers married John Arthur Tooke. Margaret Hunter Vickers married Ashley Thomas Cawthon. [He was] the grandfather to my papa. Anna Nixon was uncle Jones' mother. They were Uncle Jones' parents. Margaret Hunter Vickers was a sister to Anna Nixon Vickers and she married Ashley Thomas Cawthon. Well, I think its down. ....
Uncle Jones Tookes and James Ashley Cawthon, my grandfather, were first cousins. Because their mothers were sisters. It was through the Vickers.

Cousin Georgia Vickers Williams, one of our cousins. Did Bobo ever tell you when we bought the piano. Was it 1916?

I had not idea when Uncle Jones came to Bossier. Do you? It should be in the record when Uncle Jones got his first property. It should be recorded. Do you know how many acres we had. Did Bobo ever say?
I thought there were 80 acres, but I thought they all came from Uncle Jones.
[ Telephone call ends. Index 351]
Now she's just like a sister. She's Bobo's wife.

Oh, see said that they bought 40 acres from Uncle Jones and then later he bought 40 more. So that was 80 acres. I had thought.... 40 was in my mind. But that's the way it had to be 80.
S- So Bobo is Ardis.
M Yes, John Ardis. We always called him Ardis.
S- And his widow is still living?
M- Yes, that's the one I was talking to. She lives there in Ruston.
S- She lives in Ruston.
M And they have one child.
S. We may want to talk to her some time, to see what pictures they have.

She said that she thought that years ago the Tookes settled on Lake Bistineau. I guess it's called Dorcheat then.
S- You've given us a lot of family information.
M- I'm surprised that I remembered as much as I did.
Daddy had everything down there. All kinds of vegetables- I put that in there. Daddy's main crop was cotton, of course. But he had corn and potatoes. Ti-Tee remembered that he had velvet beans. Have you ever heard of "velvet beans?"
S- Never heard of them
M- Well, that was a livestock food.
I tried to remember everything I could.
S- You've done a wonderful job.
M- As I said, Ti-Tee agreed with me. Of course she could remember more. Of course we had an outdoor toilet. But I don't remember but one barn. We had a smoke house. We had a place... somewhere we kept potatoes. I just don't remember it.
D- A root cellar, I would imagine.
M-I don't know. It seemed like [it had] a top on it.
But I'm not sure about it. But Mama canned everything. She didn't waste anything. She made applesauce and then used the peelings and made jelly. She dried apples. We had figs, pears, and peaches and plums.
I don't remember about strawberries, but we probably did.... And she canned vegetables, too.
The kind that you could can back then. They canned tomatoes.
S- I want to ask you a question, because you might could remember. Did they have pressure cookers? What did they do?
M- You got me there. I guess just put it in the boiler, in a pot.
S- They just boiled it?
M- I think they just put in a pot and boiled it, but I'm not too sure. I never was much of a cook. Y'all don't think I'm much of anything, do you?
S & D- No!
M- [laughs]
D- You're a good historian. You said in there that you only had ice on special occasions.
M- Yes!
D- Was it only on the 4th of July? What were the special occasions you had it on.
M- The main one, I remember. My daddy would drive all the way to Haughton and get a 100- a big block of ice. And he had sawdust he'd put it in and we'd have home-made ice-cream and the first time we had watermelon. They didn't want us to eat watermelon before July 1. And we had family and friends and that was just a big celebration.

Tape 2: Side A

The piano was bought the first time our land was leased- Daddy bought a piano. But we never did.... I guess you would call us poor. But we didn't know it. We had plenty to eat. Mama made our clothes. And we dressed as well as, better than, some of them. We're just country folks. We at least had pride. Mama was an excellent cook. Oh, she was a good cook, and a good housekeeper. And we grew up.... well, we were somebody.
S- Sure.
M- I never did really think of us being poor. Yet I'm sure some folks would consider us poor.
S- I don't know. You had a nice home and good clothes and enough to eat....
D- And cars.
M- Oh, Daddy made a good living. And when he was not farming he did carpenter work.
D- I don't think you'd be considered poor.
M- I imagine the reason that we moved from Koran....When my brother-that was in 1919- he was in the 7th grade. [Koran] School went from 1st through 7th and that's as far as it went. And we HAD to have an education. They knew that we would be educated. My daddy didn't have an opportunity. Mama did. Now Mama went to school and took some, I think equivalent to college classes. She took art. But Daddy was more or less considered an orphan but he was smart, smart fellow. Just, oh so smart in Math. And that's where my sister got her brains. She was almost like Daddy. They went out an gathered little sick pigs and calves. She taken on after him. And I didn't do that, either. As I said, I liked to play.
S- So you moved here to get an education?
M- There wasn't a vacant house in Haughton. This [house] has history, too! Did you know that?
I'm really history. This house was the first school-building- real school-building- there was a log house,
one-room, past on the other side of the tracks. But this was the first school building. They asked Mr. Bollin-you know Judge Bollin, Attorney? His daddy was asked to come here and teach and he would not teach in THAT.....cabin. If they'd build a school he'd come and teach. And they built this house. The blackboards were up there. It's still there on the wall on the end room. It was divided into two parts. There's men's names carved into the wall back there. They moved it. It was across on the other side of the church next to the Railroad tracks. And they moved it over here and it was here when we moved in. But Daddy added some closets and back bathroom and back screen porch and there's another little room back there. But I've had to tell that tale many times. Children find out about it, and I've had to go talk about it.
D- I'll take a picture of it, then.
[Index 96]
One more instance....I'll tell you what kind of Daddy we had. When I was...I had a picture made with my doll. We got Sears and Roebuck Catalog and Bellas Hess or something like that. I think we've always taken the Shreveport Times. But anyway, I was looking through Sears and I saw a doll, now I was about four I guess, that's eyes opened and closed. I thought that that was......! I wanted Santy Claus to bring me that doll. I thought 'I have got to have that doll with its eyes.' They ordered my doll and right before Christmas it came and they [had] sent the other doll that 's eyes didn't close and it was COLD. And my Daddy either got on the horse or in the buggy and went to Shreveport to find a doll and got back real late Christmas eve night. And when I got up that doll with its eyes that shut and closed was at the top of my stocking.
S- That is a wonderful story.
[128] After I retired, it was the oddest thing. As I say, I've never been...Well my brother and sister were real smart. Oh, I don't guess I was dull. I was average. But after I retired I'd wake up at night and I'd think of something, and if I didn't put it down then. I wrote some poems....then I wrote about my doll. Several things that were very interesting. I could not remember unless I wrote it down. But I am so glad I told about my doll. I guess I was more like my Daddy. He had the sandy [colored] hair. Mama had jet black hair. Then Ardis-Bobo- did, too. Ti-tee had dark red hair. Jimmy had white hair when he was born. So we came out like a bunch of old speckled chickens. I'm not ashamed of any......I wrote in this, this is the way I finished it. I didn't like Doyline. I didn't like Doyline at all, and I hated school. My sister had to drag me to school. Bless her heart, she put up with me....I don't know how she ever put up with me! She was the best thing in the world to me from the time I was in the 3rd grade on up. I don't think I could have made it without her.
[ She reads from the end of the written document and makes corrections. ]










































Cawthon Family Genealogy

A. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Kolb (sister to Ellen Kolb) married Jonas "Uncle Jones" Tooke
Several boys
Eleanor
Ida
A. "Uncle" Lex Tooke (possibly Jones's brother?)

I. Hardy Nixon Vickers and Sarah Lester Vickers
1. James Jackson
2. Eliza
3. John L.
4. Sarah
5. Anna Nixon Vickers (later married John Arthur Tooke)
6. Margaret Hunter Vickers married Ashley Thomas Cawthon
A. James Ashley Cawthon married Ellen Kolb
James Ashley was an architect and apparently died in California.

1. James Alexander Cawthon married Maggie Mae Dance
1. John Ardis (Bobo) Cawthon married Elenora Albrecht
3/16/1907-10/2/1984
a. Elisabeth Albrecht Cawthon married Stephen Saunders
2. Annis (Tih-Tee) Cawthon- never married
5/4/1909

3. Maggie Lee (Pinkie) Cawthon married John Duncan McIntyre on 3/20/1942
Mr. McIntyre died on 2/11/1948.
a. Marilyn Annis McIntyre (12/15/1946) married Earl Everett Mayfield (11/21/1946.
1. Annis Elisabeth Mayfield Foster (11/27/1971. Divorced.
4. James Dance (Jimmy) Cawthon (7/16/1915) married Jaunita Davis
a. Richard James Cawthon (9/21/1954
b. John Robert (4/16/ 1956-925/1976)




B. Brother died when young.
People McIntyre, Maggie Lee Cawthon
Search Terms Oral history
Lexicon category 6: T&E For Communication
Interview date 1997-05-07
Interview place At her home in Doyline, La.
Interviewer David Jeane/Shanna Faulk
Medium Plastic, Metal,
Recording media Cassette Tape
Lexicon sub-category Sound Communication T&E
Inventoried date 2011-08-11